Buddy Rich Memorial Scholarship Concert DVD

[S.P]

I must say that when i bought that tape Dennis was smokin, but as become more knowledgeable about Vinnie and i began to slightly understand what he did it hit me the next time i watched it how smokin he was...now also though after watching chick live with dave and a dave clinic i also begin to understand that dave's was also awesome. I thought Dennis was really arrogant that night, he kept looking back at the band as if like seeing check me out.

My favourite that night though, playing with the big band was Gregg!! What a performance! Plus if you look at the band they loved him!!

[spaceotter]

Yo G (aMG) and everyone--Grew up with these tapes. Cool to see them here.

Before falling so firmly on the side of the Vincinerator, you should really check out tape 1. Dennis kills it. For sheer muscle, if not complexity, he took the title with one of those visceral performances that got the crowd to jump up out of their seats with an "oh hhhHELL yeah!!!" Especially the drum trio with Louis and Gregg--Gregg is a great player and I enjoyed his sensitivity and his ability to collaborate, but Dennis was lightening and thunder (with chewing gum, no less) and G&L were struggling to keep up. I could feel his force and sheer attitude emanating from the VCR like I was in Poltergeist. "The spirits are very angry...bring out the weed whacker!"

Tape 2 never really did as much for me, sorry to say, though it taught me something subtle and important that has taken years to assimilate. Vinnie and Weckl played like I had already come to expect from them, and for me the magic was wearing off by then. New licks and new tricks, godlike rhythmic vocabularies, yes, but I was already coming to find that I needed more than blistering solos and blazing technique to hold my attention.

Gadd, on the other hand, sat down and "showed up" in a different way. He didn't need to prove anything--certainly not to those youngsters; he was already the grand pubah, the dizzle for shizzle, the dealio for realio. He sat there and laid it down between the two of them like Pappy, radiating dignity, groundedness and a sense of belonging. That tape started to give me my first glimmer that it wasn't really about the licks. Gadd was king and he knew it, and he didn't have to play mad notes to prove it.

Ack...now I want to watch those tapes again! Loaned 'em to a friend two years ago and fell out of contact. That and the first Weckl "Back to Basics" tape. Oh well...perhaps time to upgrade to DVD anyway.

peace==otter

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[spaceotter]

Hey SP--yeah, Gregg's performance was great and really musical. I loved his solos and dug his whole thing. He really came the to play with the band and I think the really did like playing with him.

A friend of mine (guitar player) just ran into Gregg a little while ago at a baggage check in Hong Kong or Seoul or Tokyo (can't remember) while Gregg was going to play a clinic & said he was just as humble and gracious as a person can get.

Yes, Dennis had some attitude--probably smacked around Will Calhoun after the show a bit with his own white gloves. [img]wink.gif[/img]

[mkabal]

I would have to say what Steve Holmes said. The video did change my life. I bought the video to see Vinnie though. I knew Vinnie was just sick and loved Gadd and Weckl. It?s the most classic drummer video to date. There is nothing out there on video that can capture the magic that happened that night back in 1989. Steve, Dave, and Vinnie played brilliantly and then some. The drum battle at the end was perfect. Sure Vinnie and Dave were a bit over the top especially Vinnie, but they all did their own thing and that is what so special about that night. I just wish they would do that again. Man I have to get this DVD. It?s so about time. It?s the best investment for all drummers to have. The Steve Smith and Marvin Smitty are not so bad either. Now if cats played that stuff in today?s setting its almost old news?. but not really. The buddy clips on all the videos are just amazing. Just like Cathy Rich said. ?Once you put Buddy up on the screen, he still is the main attraction.? Something like that. Thanks Buddy!!!!!!!!!!

[got_a_matchgrip]

Well put.

DVD = song sections, chapters, titles, extras [hopefully!], skip/time feature; & unlike dinosaur VHS = WAY cool [img]cool.gif[/img]
[img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

...[so's i can skip right to Vinnie's end trades]...

Now I'm JUST kidding there, folks... [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

...[Even tho they do still stand up as some of the best OTT-pyrotechnics ever from anyone...er, NON dbl-kick! /;-p].

I've actually never seen either the one w MSSmitty & SS or Dennis & Gregg [just clips], but the vid-clip on Drummerworld has Smitty really giving SS a run for his $$... ;-) The sections of DC that i saw at a drumr friends' still seemed more like a bull in china shop [for the big band swing genre] than any of them...but that's DC. I still totally dig the snot out of him w Sco, Stern, McLaugh, DeFrancesco, Dan, CAB, & Unc Mo...

But i also have little doubts about the comment that the other 2 were trying to "keep up" w DC...;-) Hey, the final trades, w most of THOSE guys, were virtually a chopsfest, allright?

Aft all, it was just simply the idea or premise of having a few of the hottest drumrs around ATT to play w the BRBB, & then also "duking" it out at the end, a la the old BR "drum battles" [BR vs Krupa, Bellson, Shaughnessy, etc] nothing less, nothing more.

My ? is - did BR ever "battle" w SPayne?! Now there's a BB barn-burner fo' sho'....

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